THE GORIES STORY part 1 - MICK COLLINS
The first part of the Gories interviews. Mick Collins, arguably the coolest voice in rock’n’roll. Still kickin’ it with the Dirtbombs. Also chats about Blacktop, King Sound Quartet, the Screws and what comics he likes. First published in 1998.
Ill start with the Gories When did you start and how did you meet the other guys, Peg and dan?
Uh, lets see Well, wed actually known each other for some years before we formed the band. Dan and I met uhm God, I dont know, we started in 86. Dan and I had met about three years before, two or three years earlier at a show Im sorry, I take that back. Tom Lynch, who was in the Dirtbombs, I met Tom at a show and Tom introduced me to Dan about a week later. And Dan and I met Peg at a Well, we were both mods, we were heavily into soul music, 60s soul, 60s jazz, 60s ska, the whole nine yards. And Peg came to a party one night and Dan liked the way she was dressed and thats how we met Peg.Ok. [Laughing] They were boyfriend and girlfriend before we were in the band.
Ok, when was that 86?
Yeah, yeah we formed the band 86 so they started goin out together in 85 and they broke up in 86.Because of the band Um huh, it was either They could either be in a band together or they could be in a relationship.I guess thats true.
Yeah. [Laughing]What did you do prior to that, where you in any bands?
I was in a band called the Floortasters and it lasted from about 81 until schucks, I dont know. We stopped doin the Floortasters in 85 I think was the last records. The better we got the less we recorded.
What kind of band was that? What did you play?
It was a punkrock band. More or less We sounded a lot like Wire on Pink Flag, except that we didnt have a guitar player. [Laughing]. It was bass, drums and organ and wed never You know, a lot of the bands we sounded like wed never heard.
Thats even better.
Right, yeah, so we had no idea what we were really doing until about five years after we broke up. We said: You know, we sound a lot like these guys.
Didnt you have project called Man Ray Man Ray or something like that ?
Man Ray Man Ray is a solo project thats off and on. Its just me, I still do that one. Most of the bands that influence Man Ray Man Ray are not stuff that anyone would really listen to. Its just me sort of you know
Yeah, uh not experimenting, I mean I know what Im doing. Its just for my own personal jollys.
Ok. So, what was the scene like in Detroit when you started the Gories?
There wasnt a scene really, I mean we actually thought we were on the end of the whole garage punk thing. Cause there had been all these bands out in 84, 85 and 86 and it was starting to peeter out. Nad we thought, oh well, we missed this buss. With luck maybe well get a 45 out. Thats pretty much all we thought about it. It wasnt you know Because we really, you know wed heard all these garage bands and none of them sounded as wild as we thought the music deserved. Cause you know, wed been listening to Back From The Grave. We said: None of these bands sound like Back From The Grave. Why dont we be this wild. Why dont we try to be wilder than this you know.
So thats what inspired you to start the Gories..
Um huh.Where did you record the first stuff? Whats that, the Garageland compilation
The first recording was at, yeah, Garageland studio in 85 I think. We recorded everything we knew at the time. Somewhere there are tapes of all of that Im sure.
Thatd be great to hear. You should look for that.[Laughing] When did anyone show any interest to put out records with you and stuff like that? Did they see you live
I think when Wanghead first started recording us they thought we were just so weird and you know, we fit in cause Wanghead did records by just, you know, freak groups. They tried to make the crudest and stupidest music they could find and they thought we fit right into that. We didnt think that was very funny, but we wanted to make a record. [Laughter] We thought, well, if theyre gonna pay for it. Lets go ahead and do it.Yeah, sure.
How did you get in touch with Len Puch (Wanghead chief)?
He saw us live a couple of times. We played with Lennys band Snakeout a few times. There was a band, a local band called the Hysteric Narcotics and they really liked us, and they would let us play. And a couple of times Snakeout would headline and then Hysteric Narcotics were the second string act and we would go on as the opening act. And yeah, that was long before we learned how to play.
What kind of instruments and amps did you use then?
Uhm, at first I had a Fender Mustang copy and I borrowed a Fender Twin from the guitarplayer in the band Dan was in previous. And Dan had a Vox AC15 and a Vox Spitfire and he traded both of those for his Jaguar. And I got some cheap guitars and borrowed a Silvertone amp and somewhere along the line Dan picked up an AC30. His stuff His guitar cost much more than my guitar and Pegs drums together. And when we first started this stuff wasnt expensive at all. It wasnt like the big collectors market and even at that his guitar and amp cost $800. In 1986 that was a ton of money. Now those things are both $800 a piece.
Houserockin is also on a label called Fanclub
No, thats a bootleg. Houserockin was never officially released on CD. The only legitimate release was the Wanghead vinyl issue and the Crypt vinyl issue.Okay.Just so you know.
Now everything is clearing up here.
Yeah, and by the way, I dont have one.Okay, hahaha Id like one though. I still dont have a CD player but I mean, just to have every issue, I would like to get a copy of the Fanclub CD.
Where did you record all the other 7s?
Uh, in our bedroom.
No, that was a basement in somebody elses house. That was almost a real studio.
Whats the P+L studio?
P+L was Tom Conway. Tom conway was in the band that Dan was in before the Gories. And he bought the recording equipment that Wanghead used to cut Houserockin . He bought it and when we did the singles he was living in the house at the time and he just set the stuff up and we just used it and recorded. Yeah, P+L stands for Plowed and Loud.
Uh, when did you get in touch with new Rose?
Uhm, we never did actually. Hahaha, Alex Chilton did that. A mutual friend, a friend of both of us and Alex introduced Alex to the Gories. He played Houserockin . And Alex loved it. And so Alex wanted to do a record, so he talked to New Rose and set all that up.So thats how it happened!Uh huh
How was that? To work with Alex I mean
It was fine. We took our time and did it. Hey, I dont really know what to say it was just you know We cut an album. There are no wild stories.
Oh no, thats what I wanted to hear.
Nothing really strange happened. There were no huge drunken freakouts. We just sat around and cut the album. [Laughter]
Didnt you take over producing a couple of tracks? I think I read that somewhere
It was more of a collaborative effort. Some tracks he would do everything and one or two tracks I did everything but most of the time we would sit there and talk about what he wanted to do versus what we thought it should sound like. I dont know, wed reach a compromise and thatd be the record.
Sounds good to me.
Hahaha it was just yknow, like a standard recording session.
Okay, just to get this whole album deal over with. When did you get the Crypt record deal?
Crypt offered us Crypt wanted us to do another album. But we had actually broken up and we were like Well, we dont wanna! We hate each other. And he goes Cmon, do another record. Well bring you over to Europe. And we said Thats what New Rose said, and they didnt do that either. No, I promise, Ill bring you over to Europe. So we said Send us some plane tickets and well record an album for you.
Yeah, thats Tim haha
Yeah, hahahahaha And thats pretty much how that happened. We didnt record the album until we had some plane tickets.
Aah, thats great.
And we cut the album, so the album was actually delayed. It was supposed to come out before the Gories toured Europe and it didnt because we we only cut it yknow it only took us two days to cut it.
Where did you record it?
Oh, we did most of it in the garage behind Dans house. We did some of it in a recording studio and a piece of it, uh Bo Diddley on the vinyl LP was an outtake from Houserockin . And Ichiban was a single so Telepathic was a single. On the Crypt record Telepathic is taken off Larrys 45 [The In The Red 7], because the mastertape got destroyed. So we just played the record and recorded it.
Did you split up several times?
We broke up after the second LP came out. We broke up after we recorded the singles. We recorded them and we broke up and it took forever for them to come out cause we didnt talk to each other for six months. And then we broke up I think that was probably the longest we broke up, was during 91. Cause we didnt get back together until we started recording Outta Here. The third LP. The singles were actually supposed to be our third LP.
Okay, so you recorded that as an LP?
We were recording it as an LP, right. We were gonna do more than four singles. We were gonna do like seven or eight and take one song off of each single and make that an album track. Something like that.
For what label?
Oh, what ever wanted it. We realised at that point that people were actually willing to pay us to put records out. Which, you know, had never actually happened before. So we thought well, well make an LP and see if anybody wants it. It was probably going to be Get Hip.
Oh Whats the Voodoo Stew LP?
Voodoo Stew right. That was the third LP, that was supposed to be made up of the singles. Tim actually paid us.
And sent you plane tickets.
Tim Warren is the only person to ever pay the Gories for a record.
Yeah, Larry Hardy paid us too but Actually, the people who made the singles paid us and as far as the albums go Wanghead never paid us and New rose certainly never paid us.
Haha. According to New Rose we owed them $130!
No shit! What kinda deal is that? You pay us to put it out.
What about the new In The Red single? Again and Again backed with New Orleans
It should be maybe itll be out this year. What keeps happening is uhm, we had trouble finding another tape machine like the one we cut it on. So we cant mix it. And now we found one, but I sent Larry the tapes so he could find one and he never found one. But now I found one, but the tape is in California and I have to go get it. The tape will only get mixed when I go out to get it. Hopefully by this summer, it should be out.
And then Warner wanted to do a record with you ?
They thought about it, but thats as far as it went. We got back from Europe and Warner Records contacted us and by this time Dan and I had thrown Peg out of the band. Haha. So we just you know we were like Nah. But were gonna offer you blah blah blah money. And we were like Eh no.
[Laughter] Aah, you know, if you cant work together no amount of money can make you try, so
Yeah, but you were looking for a new drummer for a while?
Yeah, we did. We looked for some we auditioned some drummers. Most of them turned out to be too good or they couldnt keep time. You know, Peg was just good enough. She kept time fantastic and you know, she sort of knew what we needed in a drummer. There were other drummers, but most of them were too good. That was kinda embarrasing.
So what happened with the break up? You just threw Peg out of the band?
We threw her out! And we thought about getting another drummer until 1994. In 1994 we officially broke up.
So, was that when Blacktop started?
Right about that time anyways. I think, a few months later I was approached about Blacktop and I said Sure, Im not doing nothing. Ive just spent two years not doing anything.
Did Darin just call you up?
Yeah. He just called up. He said Do you wanna make a record? and I said sure. Haha I used to there was a point, whenever anybody asked me to make a record I said yeah.
So do you wanna come make a record?[Laughter]
Well, if somebody says do you wanna come make a record, I say yes, usually. But these days nobodys been asking so I havent had to think about it. Aah, you know, I went down to Texas and we spent a month writing songs and we spent a week recording the record.
Where did you meet Alex?
Was he with Darin and Janet?Yeah, he was a guy that Darin knew. I he was in a band called the Oval Teens and they were kinda playin around Dallas and stuff and Alex wanted to start Everybody else in the Oval Teens had sideprojects but Alex. So Alex said Well, I want a sideproject too! He was complaining to Darin and Darin said Well, you know, this guy is coming down from Detroit to record a record. Do you wanna play bass? Alex said sure!
When did you record the album and the singles?
Everything on the same day. Everything was cut not the same day, but the same week. It was all cut in August of 94. I think it was yeah, 94.
What about the Au-go-go LP?
That was cut that was all the same stuff.
Wasnt it supposed to be on Crypt first?
Yeah, Crypt was supposed to put it out as a 10.What happened?They didnt. He decided not to. Thats all hahaha. Theres no story behind it, he just decided he didnt want to.
Did you do any touring?
We toured the US in 95. In the summer, we did that. 35 cicites and we broke up in October.
Why did that happen?
Uhm Its a long story! Very long and very sad. It basically boiled down to yknow, Alex and I thought we had been lied to pretty badly by Darin. About $3,000 missing A lot of money was involved. So we said, well, lets not do this any more.
Did you record the double 7 on the tour?
How come it took so long to come out?
Cause we broke up! Hahaha It wouldve been a different story if we were still together, but we broke up and it became a low priority.
Did you put out everything you recorded?
Yes. Everything we recorded is out, theres one theres a little piece of a jam session on tape. Its like a minute and a half long. Thats the only thing thats not out.
So after that you and Alex hooked up with Tim Kerr and Stephanie?
Yes, we did. It was in 96. About a year later. Fall 96. We went down to Austin, which Ive never been to and recorded the King Sound stuff. In a week! We were there for two weeks. That was quite a drag. I dont like recording having to record an entire LP in less than a month.
Did you just rehearse the week before?
There was no rehearsals, no nothings. There was only Okay, I have a song here. Wed go and wed learn the song and wed record it like pretty much the same day. And then, you know, the rest we filled with covers. The Sun Ra cover and Government Issue
Did you do any live shows?
Okay, and youve broken up now or ?
No, no, we were never a major band. It was just something that we did. In fact, were probably going to record another record this summer.
Wow, thats great!
And maybe a single or two singles or something like that. Well get down there, and well actually take a couple of weeks. Take a couple of weeks to just record.
Did you start the Dirtbombs at the same time as the King Sound Quartet?
No, the Dirtbombs was actually started in, let me think now We broke up in 92 and I started the Dirtbombs in Fall of 1992. The Dirtbombs were actually started between the Gories and Blacktop. That was the only thing that was pretty much the only thing I did. But I had problems keeping I couldnt find people who would stay in the band longer than a week. So I went thru a lot of people. I mean, at last count I think the number of people who were ex-Dirtbombs were 21 or 22
Thats pretty amazing
So now I actually found a stable line-up Yeah, thats like I dont know anything to compare that to.
You should use that as a fact to put on the record
Hahaha. Thats really sad. I went thru so many people I dont even remember everybodys name. Kathy, Carol, the drummer from the band Inside Out, theyve been to Europe a lot, she was in it. She was one, she was one of the first members actually. And Eric Johnson whos the Wedge Magazine, he was in it. He was in it on two singles, on two records. And thats pretty much all I can remember. Members from lots of local bands. It was like this revolving door. They would come in and they would stay for about a week and then leave. They wouldnt care what I was doing, theyd just leave. Haha. Finally I got a stable line-up, more or less, and we started recording, recording the LP, and still people were leaving. And I think the line-up that I had last year, in 97, was the longest line-up I had. From April 97 up until November. April to November 97.
So, whos in the band now?
Uhm, in the band now Lets see. Only one person left in November 97 Tom Lynch, who introduced me to Dan. He got an offer for a really good job in California. And it was a really great job and he didnt really wanna leave. He kinda wanted to stay in the band and we were like Tom, you should leave!. The job was really great and the band wasnt doing a whole lot in comparison. So, he took the job. And he was replaced by Jim Diamond, whos the engineer
Just about everything Ive done the last two years, Jim Diamond was the engineer on. He also played keyboards, he played organ with Bantam Rooster and hes got a band of his own. Hes the permanent replacement bassplayer.Who else is in the band?
Anybody I might know of?
Naah, haha. No, nobody else you know, Im pretty sure. Oh, oh, I take that back The drummer for the Hentchmen is one of the drummers
What inspired you to have two drummers and two bassplayers?
It was something I hadnt heard before. I wanted to do something I hadnt heard before.
When did you record the 7s?
The Sympathy record and the In The Red 7 were both recorded in 95. And aaah They didnt come out until last year. The Sympathy record came out a year later and the In The Red record two years later. But theyre out now and Horn-dog Fest was recorded. We have a 12-song triple 7 We dont know if its actually going to be a triple 7 because everybody is getting on my case to make it a 12 vinyl record. [It did turn out to be an LP]
I think Id like that better too I mean, the idea of a triple 7 is cool but I think Id like a 12 more. Did you record it in Ghetto Studios?
Uh hmm, we did that in April.
What was that like?
Oh, I love it! I love it! One of the best recording studios, as far as atmosphere, its one of the best Ive ever been to. We I pretty much made up all the songs as we were standing there. The band would sit there and theyd talk and theyd drink beer. Id be standing around going I need a word that rhymes with orange. And Id think of something Okay, I got the song and Id teach em the song. And wed record it on the spot. No ones uptight about time bein money or anything like that. Jim would just sit there and whenever I was ready, Jim was ready to go. Thats how I record these days. You know, I sit there and try to think hell, where am I gonna get a bridge from?. And we do it.
You also recorded the Dirtys and the Red Aunts
I did, yes. I did the Dirtys there and I did the Red Aunts there and I did Andre Williams there.
What about Demolition Doll Rods, where did they record?
They recorded at a place called 54 sound. We did that recording just before I found out about Ghetto Recorders. If I had known about Ghetto Recorders Id have brought them down to Ghetto Recorders. And for the next album theyve expressed an interest in going to Ghetto Recorders. So Im thinking, thats probably whats going to happen.
Are you gonna produce it too?
Yes, Ill be doing the entire album this time.Instead of splitting it up.
How come that happened?
You know, I dont know.
Ok, good answer.
They said ok, what songs do you wanna do? and I had a half dozen songs I really wanted to do and they said ok, well do those songs. We did them and I gues Jon wanted to do the record as well. I wanted to work with them and Jon wanted to work with them so they just did half the album with me and half with Jon. Oh, Jon Spencer I should say.
What about How come you recorded the Dirtys and the Red Aunts?
They asked. Yeah, they called me up and said were doing an album, would you like to be the producer?. And I said sure. Now, I really do that. Whenever somebody asks if I wanna produce a record I just about always say yes. Haha, without thinking about it.
How do you go about producing these bands cause I mean the Red Aunts and the Dirtys are more punkrock based and the Demolition Doll Rods are different.
I mean, I dont It doesnt matter. Hahaha. I mean, not to me. What type of music the band plays isnt I dont see that as being a stumbling block. Just making the best record the band can make. My job is to make the band sound the best they can sound. Im not trying to put my stamp on a record, I dont do that. For me its almost unethical.
I can see what you mean, yeah.
If it was a rap group Id still do a pretty decent production and folks would know it was me. Haha.
The type of music isnt important. Its all music yknow I guess Epitaph said that the Red Aunts album is the loudest record the Red Aunts ever did.
Do they sound different from their other stuff or ?
Uhm, the songs are tighter. But they wrote the songs, I didnt have anything to do with that. Theyre compact and they dont really ramble that much. And you can dance to most of them.
I like Saltbox. I think Saltbox is a really good album but you cant dance to any of the songs. I thought it was good but you couldnt dance to it. So if you can make a record that sounded like this but that you can dance to
Do you get a lot of offers to produce?
Not as much as Id like. I havent had one yet this year.
So, what about the Andre Williams LP?
Uh, Larry asked me to do that one. Theyd already worked out a deal to do the album and Larry said Well, if Im gonna record an Andre Williams album I want Mick Collins to produce it. He called me up and said You like Andre Williams right? and I said Yeah! Great, cause Im doin an album with him, do you wanna produce it? And I said Are you kidding? Hahaha. How soon can we start?
And you also play with him on the album?
Yeah.And Dan too?
Yes.What was it like?
Uh, the show It was only one show. We only did one show and it was fun but we didnt have a lot of time to rehearse so that part wasnt fun. But when we got up on stage it sounded great.
Did you play on the record too?
Ok, what does it sound like?
It doesnt sound like the Norton record. Hahaha. I can guarantee you that. Well, its all new songs. Theres no old stuff, no blues standards. Its just Andre being his usual self. Haha. And yknow, it was just a big party in the studio. Folks would come in Theres a lot of people on the record cause Once people found out that we were recording Andre Williams they thought Man, I gotta see this. We said Hey, you can play guitar cant you? Come here and play this!
Its gonna have a long line-up
Yes, a long line-up. What I really wish we could have done At the same time I was recording Andre Williams somebody else was recording Kim Fowley. At the same time at Ghetto Recorders and we were like Man, wouldnt it be great if we could get Andre Williams and Kim Fowley on the same record. Hahaha. But it didnt happen. It would have been great.
Who else was in the band on the record?
Uh I dont know. Let me see who I can remember The Dirtbombs as a band played on one song. Theres people from bands all over town The Hentchmen, Johnny from the Hentchmen plays on one song. About two dozen people.
Did he have a band he wanted to record with or just people who came in?
No, it was just people who came in. On one song the band that we played with on the live show, I got the same people to come down and play on one song but there wasnt really like a set band. But it was fun though. We may do it again.
Yeah, we might. Weve been talkin Uh no, there have been rumours.
Are you gonna tour Europe with the Dirtbombs?
I would like to but the problem Its not a problem, Im just worrying that people who wanna see a garage punk band are gonna be dissapointed. Hahaha. Everybody in Europe who knows me knows me as playing some garage punk blues stuff and the Dirtbombs are not. Were not any of that. Well, were a punk band but thats about it. But thats why I remember you. You were the guys that did that review. Hahaha.
Where did you see that?
You sent one to In The Red and I happened to be visiting In The Red the day that magazine came in. So I saw it, otherwise Id never have seen it. I wasnt offended, I knew that was gonna happen. Thats cool, at least somebodys just gonna say I dont think I like this.
But I like it a lot more now. I cant wait to hear the album.
The album I personally like it a lot. I think its probably the best thing Ive ever recorded.
Yeah, as far as me making records and being in a band I think Horn-dog Fest is probably the best record. I love it. I hope I can do it again.
You also have a new band with Matt Verta Ray from Speedball Baby?
We dont have a name yet. Its me and Alex again and Matt Verta Ray and a friend of Alexs. The drummer from the band Alex is in. Alex is in a band called Sleazy Mancini and its Alex and the drummer from Sleazy Mancini and me and Matt Verta Ray. I just finished mixing all that stuff. We havent really found our sound yet. We did five songs and were still sorta bouncing around from style to style. We dont know yet what it sounds like.
Is somebody gonna put it out?
I hope so. Larry, In The Red is thinking about putting it out. But he hasnt heard the entire thing yet, hes only heard one song. He really liked that one song but none of the other songs sound like it. When he gets a tape of it well see if he really wants to put it out.
What about this Music For Robots with Teri from the Red aunts and Dan Brown and Marty Moore, whats that? [Now known as the Screws. Coming out early next year on ITR.]
I dont know what its called. He just made something up. We havent done that yet.
Do you have a lot of songs?
Theyre writing the music. They want me to come up with the lyrics and I havent bothered to come up with any lyrics yet. Im gonna wait til I hear what the music sounds like before I make any words up. Were gonna record that the last week of this month.
In Ghetto too?
No, thats gonna be in LA. But Jim Diamond is going out to LA for something else so he might be the engineer. And were gonna mix it here at Ghetto.
Have you been touring a lot with the Dirtbombs in the States?
Weve played some shows. We played Illinois, we just played last night in Ohio and thats pretty much it. We havent played like a tour tour. Our first tour might actually be Canada. We had an offer last year to do a bunch of shows in Canada and we couldnt do it because Tom couldnt get the time off work. But now that Toms outta the band Haha. We can take time to do Canada.
Whats the reaction when youre playing live?
Getting better. Our first show went great. It was actually Illinois and that went really well. We did a show in Ohio that was really terrible. So not a whole lotta people came out last night. Hahaha. But we were a lot better last night than we were the last time we played Ohio. In Detroit were sort of like a super group. Everybody in the band has been in other bands for years and years.
What other bands do you like right now? Any good stuff that youve heard?
Uh, I dont hear a whole lotta records because Ive been in the studio for so long. I wake up, I go to the studio and then I come home and its maybe two or three in the morning. I just go straight to bed. So I havent really heard anything as far as new bands go. I cant even think of anything right now. The last big stack of records I got was from Crypt so everything I heard was Crypt records. Theres another issue of the Wedge coming out and Im doing a column for that but I have to go pick up the records. Im sure therell be a bunch of things Im gonna like in the stack of records Im gonna get.
And some stuff youll hate
Well, yeah. Hahaha.There always is.Yeah, there always is. Have you ever heard of the band Tab Hunter?
I heard a 5.
I hope theyre better cause I heard em and I thought
(End of tape. Good for Tab Hunter).
Whats the label your new single is coming out on?
Spidey Records from Irvine, California. Its called Stuck Under my Shoe is the name of the song. [The label changed names to Some Assembly Required]
And what else are we doin right now
We have two or three singles on local Detroit labels. So those will be hard to get. Hahaha I should apologize in advance, but those will be very hard to get.
Someone will know that theyre out there. I dont know how many copies. One of them might even be only 500 copies. [Coughs] I was drinking all last night and now Im starting to feel it.Well, what else are you gonna do on a Sunday afternoon?
Watching CNN. Hahaha .
Didnt you record with the Cheater Slicks on their new album?
Yes. I sang on a couple of songs, played trombone. And I havent heard it yet. They sent me the CD but I havent had a chance to play it.Its pretty good. Its spotty at times but I like it.I mean, its a double record so its bound to be some low points.
Do you work?
Well, no. Apart from the producing. No, I make records and, you know, I do the shows and that and I produce records and thats that. For the last year thats whats been paying my bills. Its really nice, to not have to work nine to five anymore. I used to I did office work. I dont know if its been translated into Swedish, theres a comic strip over here called Dilbert
Yeah, yeah. I know it.
Yeah, that was based on my life. Hahaha
Hahaha I see what you mean!
And one day I said Fuck this! Im gonna play guitar.Itd be a helluva lot nicer to work in a comicbook or record store Yeah, you know, Im a big comicbook collector.
Yeah? Cool! Me too. What do you like?
Uhhm At the moment Ah, you know, its all American comics. We get very few comics from other countries here. We dont even get that many from Canada and theyre only across the street. So we get nothing from Europe. But as far as for comicbooks I do like, theres a comicbook called the Invisibles that I think is great.
Yeah, Grant Morrison
Yeah, Grant Morrison. Right! The only other one that I really like a lot right now is Astro City by Kurt Busiek. A super hero comicbook. It turns the entire super hero genre on its head pretty much. I didnt think it was gonna be that great and the guy who owns the comicbook store, a friend of mine, he said Just read it okay!
Ive been thinking about picking it up for some time now So maybe I should. I havent heard from anybody about it cause all everybody seems to read is Hate and Eightball
Im in the same situation. When I say comicbooks to my friends, they all think Hate and Eightball and pretty much nothing else. Oh man, you gotta check out The Invisibles! Haha
Do you read Preacher?
A lot of my friends buy Preacher. So yeah, I do read Preacher and I like that one a lot too. I got a comicbook artist to do the cover for Horn-Dog Fest.Yeah, who?It was a friend of mine actually, cause mainly what I buy, the comicbooks that I buy are all this is one of the weird things about Mick collins. The comicbooks that I buy are mainly anthropomorphic animals Like toon animals. In America theres a whole scene you know, like a big scene for anthropomorphic animal comics. Im in this scene. Its what I do outside of music. I had a guy do it When you see the cover Its You know Omaha, the cat dancer right?
Okay, yeah, its like that.
What books are that?
There arent very many. There used to be a couple of publishers who did this stuff but they The markets not big enough so they went out of business. The most popular one is a porn-comic called Genus. Thats the most popular one but thats because its x-rated. X-rated anything sells tons and tons in the U.S. because no one over here gets enough sex.
Tell me about the Sore Losers soundtrack.
I met John McCarthy at a comicbook convention. We were there and he had a booth and stuff and I met him and he said to me Im doin this movie. This was while I was working on the Blacktop album, It was the Dallas Fantasy convention. He said Hey! Im doin this movie. Wanna do some music for it? And I said Sure, get back in touch with me. And he did. I went down and did the music. And while I was down there, hanging out with Lorette. I met Lorette [Velvette] when the Gories were down there recording their second album. In Memphis. So I was in Memphis and I met Lorette and she wanted to record and I want to do a record but I dont want it to be the kind of music I usually make. And I said Whatever, well come up with something. Id been listening to a lot of hip hop and I said Lets do a trip hop record. Haha Wouldnt it be cool? You play slide guitar and Ill make this trip hop record behind you. Thatll go over big yeah, right! So we did it. You know, she took the rehearsal tape and I sampled that and we took that to the studio and put the music around it.I was kinda surprised when I heard it. It wasnt what I expected.I bet a lot of people were surprised. Hahahaha It got airplay in New York.
It sounds like Björk so I guess it could get really big There was a rumour that Aphex Twin was gonna remix it. But it hasnt happened yet! When we heard that we were just This is too much. They liked it in New york. It got airplay I wish I could have seen the looks on the faces on some of the people that bought it. I think they pressed three thousand to four thousand copies and as far as I know it sold out too.
About the Sore losers soundtrack, were you supposed to do that kind of music or
He didnt care what I did. And you know, when people leave themselves open like that, Im liable to do anything.It sounds like Mancini or something like that.He sent me a copy of the script so Im thinking yknow, 50s music and I knew that everybody else that was on the soundtrack was gonna play punkrock. Im really gonna try and make 50s music. You know, as close as I can anyway. It still didnt come out as 50s music but I mean, I did what I did. I was hoping to do more. To do more songs but I didnt have enough time to do more songs than the three that I did. I said well Ill just make a jazzy record. Ill make a jazz record for this guy thatll freak him out and it freaked him out. Haha.
Okay, thanks for your time.
Thanks to you for taking it.