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I just bought the new Dictators single.
Oh, do you
like it?
Yeah.
They just
left today for Spain.
They did? Yeah, theyre coming to Sweden soon.
Are you
gonna see em?
Yeah.
Great.
How come you released that?
Uhhm, Im a
big fan of theirs, big Dictators fan and yknow, Im really good friends with
these guys, so they wanted a single for their...yknow, and they hadnt done
any new recordings for awhile and I think they are actually playing better than
ever. So we just got together and did this new single. Cause theyve always
been on major labels before and stuff, now theyre on a good label instead.
Is there going to be a new album too?
I dont
know about that. I know theyre looking to do a kinda...like the best of the
Dictators type album.
How come you got so interested in rock`n´roll?
Uhhm, haha. Jeez, I dont know. Ive always liked records yknow. Just crazy about records.
What was your first
release?
Of Norton?
Nortons first record... Well, first we had these Hipsville albums and that was
basically... I kept getting bugged by Tim Warren at Crypt and he kept saying
Oh, man you gotta do a record! Oh, man you gotta do a record! And I said,
Nah, nah. I dont know about that. Because Tim was just startin out at that
time and I kinda got him going on collecting records and he got me going in
making records so it was kinda like, Awrite. So we did that and then thru
Kicks, our magazine, we interviewed Hasil Adkins and Hasil started sending
tapes and then I said: Man, yknow, I hope to make a record out of this but I
dont know if anybody else want it? You know Hasil... Am I crazy? And I took
the best songs and we did this album Out to Hunch and at the same time Hasil
wanted me to put out some new recordings that he had made. So what we did was
we put those two out and people jumped all over em. It was great yknow. Right
after that, uhm, I got a hold of these unreleased Esquerita recordings. And
then right after that I got a hold of
unreleased Jack Starr recordings. And so, once I had that, I mean its a
great way to start. Yknow Hasil, Esquerita, Jack Starr... And yknow hehehehe...
And suddenly all the crazies were coming to us and yknow then we started
recording new bands and stuff like that.
When did you release the first Hasil Adkins,
what year?
1986. Ten
years ago.
You gotta celebrate.
Ah, yeah.
Im trying...he, he,he.
So Kicks was before Norton?
Yeah, Kicks
started in the late 70s. Yknow, we were just kind of a magazine for
likeminded people. And yknow, there was a lot of people at first when we came
out, they were like, Ah, whats this soul crap?. We were writing about stuff
nobody cares about, but when you look in those first couple of issues and you
see stuff like Ronnie Dawson, I mean nobody had written about him in years. Yknow
all these other things... Now its like a common thing. You go over to
anybodys house and they are all listening to those records. So its kinda
cool.
Is there going to be a new issue?
I hope so,
one of these days. The record company has got us kinda swamped. Although we did
get a bunch of great unpublished rock`n´roll photos and we are going to be
doing a book with that. In fact, the guy who took the pictures of Esqeurita on
the back of your Savage magazine, the guy who took all those pictures yknow. Its
pictures of Esqeurita and all these other guys, so it will be pretty wild. So
that will be before any kind of Kicks anyway.
When is it going to be out?
Hopefully
early next year.
How much work goes into an issue of Kicks?
Hehehe, way
too much. Everytime one of them are done I go Oh, my god. What the hell was I
doing? Hehe.
Theres no magazine like it.
I
appreciate that.
I think its the best about old music.
Well,
people just think that we, or I, dont like new music. But I just wanted to put
stuff out and people could read it five or ten years later. And it would still
be cool yknow. And the people who were making fun of me when I started, they
were all writing about, yknow, the Talking Heads or Elvis Costello and this
an that. Yknow, I just thought that was a bunch of crap. People are going to
be talking Sonny Burgess way after they talk about Elvis Costello.
Which was the first new band on the label? Was
that the A-bones?
Ah, yeah.
The A-bones or the Untamed Youth... The first two albums came out at the same
time. We got some other ones... Roy Loney, Jon and the Nightriders, Phantom
Surfers. We get a million demotapes. People keep sending em and sending em
and we only ever found one band off a demotape and that was the Hentch Men.
Who was in the A-bones?
Well... It
was me, Miriam, Bruce Bennet, Marcus the Carcass, bassplayer and Lars Espensen
on sax. That was like the line up for most of the time and then... Way before
that we had Mike Lewis, whos in DMZ and the Lyres and Mike Mariconda from the
Raunch Hands.
How long were the A-bones together?
Ten years.
Ten years to the week that we started. Hehehe, were big on tenth anniversarys
around here!
What bands are on the label now?
The Hentch
Men, the Flat Duo Jets, theyre actually playing here tomorrow. Weve been
working with them a lot. The Hentch Men, they were just here a couple of days
ago. Theres actually been, the bands not together anymore, but weve got a
new A-bones album coming out. With unreleased songs. And weve been doing a lot
of singles on new bands; Jackie and the Cedrics, theyre like the best live
surfband there is. The Kaisers, theyre fantastic. Weve got new singles with
the Neanderthals, the Dictators... Plus weve been doing lots of Real Kids
stuff too. Theyre not exactly new but, I mean, I guess for Norton...its new. Hehehe.
How do you get a hold of the bands you release?
The old bands?
Just kind
of from record collecting, just kind of from knowing what I like, what Miriam
likes. Yknow, just one thing we just did, we just signed to get some
unreleased Dale Hawkins recordings, which are real killer. You kind of... There
are a lot of guys doing reissues and stuff but theres certain labels that I
think are just mainly from people who started out as record collectors, yknow.
Crypt with Tim Warren, Telstar, yknow Todd Abramson, Bob Irwin at Sundazed. I
mean, those are guys that I respect, what theyre doing and stuff. Hang on a
sec...
That was
Dexter from the Flat Dou Jets, he said to make sure that I told you about him.
Any upcoming re-releases?
We have
some more Link Wray coming out.
An album?
Actually
the Missing Links albums that were on vinyl, theyll be on CD and therell be a
fourth volume on vinyl and CD. What were we talking about.... Oh yeah, other
labels. Labels that we admire and stuff.
I guess all of you , Todd, Tim, you and Miriam,
knew each other?
Yeah, in
fact, its real funny. I wish I could find it and send it to you to put in your
magazine but... About 1983 I guess, when we all put out our first albums, we
have a picture of me, Miriam, Tim and Todd all holding up our first albums. And
one of these days were gonna look at this and laugh that we were making these
stupid records. Hahahahaha! And now its all we do. We could take the same
picture right now. Hehehe, in fact, Tim is probably wearing the same shirt. Hehehe.
What else have we got coming up... Flaming Groovies, another live Flaming
Groovies, a mini album. I told you about the Link Wrays. Were going to do
Esquerita on CD. Id rather do stuff on records than Cds, but I did get all
these great pictures of him and I would like to use em. Do you like Cds ok?
Yeah, I think theyre ok. Compilations can be
pretty good, cause you can put so many songs on a CD.
Yeah,
thats the thing. Like some people wonder how come you put extra songs on the
Cds and this an that. Like yknow, theres room for em. Like when we used to
do only vinyl and I would try to put more than twenty minutes on, to get people
their moneys worth. I just believe in, yknow doing your best with whatever
youve got. Like the Link Wray double CD, we just put so many songs on cause we
had room to do it. I guess a lot of people get, or are a little hardassed on
vinyl, but now they go for CD a little more.
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